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* works but not optimal: some systems work great on a small scale, but scale to promote less nice behaviour | |||
* Readiness of academia? | |||
* otoh, early adopters don't need to be big | |||
Nouran: | |||
*HCI community: the driving force is actually the academics | |||
* Tool building perspective: challenges? | |||
* Reputation & interactions in online space: how can we build better tools to help users navigate these spaces without being afraid of their reputation | |||
Martin Q - if we create spaces to allow researchers to come together away from their high reputation game, how do they tap into research initiatives and new funders and funding mechanisms? | |||
Open Questions? | |||
**developing incentive mechanisms for contributions to understanding the status of the knowledge frontier** | |||
**incentive mechanisms for contributing and maintaining living lit reviews in both domains**. | **incentive mechanisms for contributing and maintaining living lit reviews in both domains**. |
Revision as of 15:54, 12 November 2022
Open Notes
Martin
- Reward contributions and how they affect behavior
- Collect few opinions on how the rewarding can be done, other examples and what worked or didn't work
Angelina:
- Questions about adoption
- Regulations (for example, in USA there's data open or they don't receive money anymore), in EU there's a proposal to evaluate researchers using diff metrics, such as openness
Sílvia
- old incentives, what are the ones in place besides reputation?
- What should we keep in mind when creating
Angelina
- replacing the old system would be detrimental to the adoption
- transfer their merits to the new system
- progressive adoption of new metrics in behavior that accommodates certain
Rafie
- metrics are used to "judge" researchers to allocate grants
- democratically incentives, but existing structures are not democratically enough
- Most of the incentives are monetary (there are social)
- researchers are not in a position to decide; they're put in the system
- funders can probably change the infrastructure and regulations
Q: stakeholders?
- Researchers
- grant funders
- publishing agencies
- Other: industry, taxpayers
Q - change coming from which stakeholders?
- Biggest US and European
- smaller foundations, not supper novel ideas, a lot of outliers in Web3
- researcher will move to web3 in 10 to 20
- Stepwise approach, led by biggest funder
- alternative view*: demonstrate the reality of sth, Web3 and Desci - opportunity to demonstrate structures and mechanisms working in a small scale, and showcasing to onboard larger organizations
- start small and demonstrate value
Push for the adoption of new systems:
- works but not optimal: some systems work great on a small scale, but scale to promote less nice behaviour
- Readiness of academia?
- otoh, early adopters don't need to be big
Nouran:
- HCI community: the driving force is actually the academics
- Tool building perspective: challenges?
- Reputation & interactions in online space: how can we build better tools to help users navigate these spaces without being afraid of their reputation
Martin Q - if we create spaces to allow researchers to come together away from their high reputation game, how do they tap into research initiatives and new funders and funding mechanisms?
Open Questions?
- developing incentive mechanisms for contributions to understanding the status of the knowledge frontier**
- incentive mechanisms for contributing and maintaining living lit reviews in both domains**.