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22-10-16

sneakers-the-rat#testing-wikibot22-10-17 00:57:56

Once again i am talking about my Test Topic that's a part of my Test Project and i want to see some links in the reply

sneakers-the-rat#testing-wikibot22-10-17 01:10:41

Now hopefully without the uncaught exceptions for Test Topic

sneakers-the-rat#testing-wikibot22-10-17 01:15:09

Now I am going to link a message into a specific section in my Test Topic#New Section and also see if we propagate that through to the wikilinks in Test Project

sneakers-the-rat#testing-wikibot22-10-17 01:15:09

Now I am going to link a message into a specific section in my Test Topic#New Section and also see if we propagate that through to the wikilinks in Test Project

sneakers-the-rat#testing-wikibot22-10-17 01:38:21

i'll leave the bot running for a lil bit but yeah it's just running on my laptop for now, will move it over to the linode running the wiki when i go to switch the url. made a page to document the WikiBot#Status Updates


22-10-16

sneakers-the-rat#testing-wikibot22-10-17 00:57:56

Once again i am talking about my Test Topic that's a part of my Test Project and i want to see some links in the reply


22-10-31

sneakers-the-rat#testing-wikibot22-10-31 23:55:22
sneakers-the-rat#wikibot22-11-01 00:03:06

I would suggest turning Discord#Notifications off for this channel. on mobile click the person looking icon in the top right and then the notification options are near the top. on desktop there should be a bell-looking icon along the top row of icons


22-11-01

sneakers-the-rat#testing-wikibot22-11-01 02:02:02


22-11-02

sneakers-the-rat#testing-wikibot22-11-02 07:43:01
sneakers-the-rat#testing-wikibot22-11-02 07:43:07
sneakers-the-rat#fedi22-11-02 08:12:57

Excuse me let me be a good role model on continuous archiving. One of the reasons I am excited about academics adopting Mastodon is because ActivityPub is built on Linked Data, which i think inspires the possibility for fundamentally new modes of scholarly communication. I have written about this in the past (10.48550/arXiv.2209.07493, but will do my best to decenter my own ideas except for when I am using them as a demonstration for others as part of a demonstration of using the technology developed for the workshop

sneakers-the-rat#wikibot22-11-02 08:14:45

omg lmao WikiBot#TODO Don't make a separate page using semantic wikilinks lol

sneakers-the-rat#fedi22-11-02 08:17:07

Then i just made a page to link to the pages. There's not really a well defined way to do meta-categorization like that in-medium as far as I'm aware, but am happy to receive WikiBot#Feature Requests about it

joelchan86#table-222-11-02 12:27:51

Konrad, are you familiar with Chemical Markup Language (CML)? I stumbled across it on Twitter a few weeks ago via discussions about open publishing, and was surprised at the longevity of the project. I don’t love XML, but it seems to have gained some traction in its day, though I am not sure how active it is these days. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_Markup_Language


22-11-03

joelchan86#table-222-11-03 02:56:36

ah, that is both informative and sad to hear. i think ahead of its time is a reasonable diagnosis.

ScholOnto I think was also ahead of its time: had a working prototype integration into a Word processor for directly authoring discourse-graph like things while drafting a manuscript (described here: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/int.20188)

sneakers-the-rat#off-topic22-11-03 11:27:24

this is almost exactly the idea with the WikiBot that pushes to a Semantic Wiki, and good to have a name in Gradual Enrichment. looking forward to digging though the references and finishing that piece^ tomorrow. (and finishing the n-back linking syntax so I can just directly include the piece in the annotation that is this message). thanks for sharing 🙂

sneakers-the-rat#In terms of overlap with my own22-11-03 22:51:30

Project Ideas#Linked Data Publishing On Activitypub

ooh I'm very interested in this. so are you thinking a Twitter#Bridge -> ActivityPub#Bridge where one could use markup within the twitter post to declare Linked Data#Markup Syntax and then post to AP? I have thought about this kind of thing before, like using a bot command syntax to declare prefixes by doing something like ``` @ bot prefix foaf: https:// (ontology URL) ``` or ``` @ bot alias term: foaf.LongerNameForTerm ``` so that one could do maybe a semantic wikilink like `[ [term::value] ]` either within the tweet or as a reply to it (so the tweet itself doesn't become cluttered/it can become organized post -hoc?).

I've also thought about a bridge (I called Threadodo ) that implements that kind of command syntax to be able to directly archive threads to Zenodo along with structured information about the author, but this seems more interesting.

I can help try and clear some of the groundwork out of the way to make it easier for you and other interested participants to experiment. I have asked around fedi a bunch for a very minimal AP server implementation, and I could try and find one (or we could try and prototype one) if you want to experiment with that :), and I can also document and show you a tweepy-based bot that has an extensible command/parsing system too

sneakers-the-rat#table-322-11-03 23:11:44

hello Matthew! very curious about this. As someone not familiar with materials science, I'm curious if you could say more about what OPTIMADE does in this case? Is the idea that the zenodo plugin parses some paper, and then sends it to other listening clients that the parsed data comes from the paper? is it a vocabulary, or communication protocol, or both? and what kind of information would it be parsing/do materials scientists want to be able to analyze in an automated way? sorry if I am being dense, just curious because I've always admired materials but have had very little exposure.


22-11-04

Konrad Hinsen#Wikibot22-11-04 16:21:19

Nice idea, that Wikibot! Do I understand correctly that it grabs all messages that contain a page name in double brackets, and adds them to the Wiki page with that name? (this message being as much a test as a question of course)

sneakers-the-rat#Wikibot22-11-04 21:01:30

the idea is exactly to merge the Garden and Stream we have here, or as olde wiki culture called it, DocumentMode and ThreadMode in a process of Gradual Enrichment http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/DocumentMode http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/ThreadMode


22-11-05

sneakers-the-rat#mod-requests22-11-05 01:23:44

Wiki#Organization As we get towards proposing projects and organizing ideas, I've added a set of pages for the different concepts that y'all indicated either here or in your applications: https://synthesis-infrastructures.wiki/Concepts

Each page should give a list of participants that have a `Interested In` property on their participant page (or you can declare interest on the page using the template (see example at https://synthesis-infrastructures.wiki/Template:Concept ) as another way of finding people with similar interests. Feel free to add additional interests from your own page and add new pages by using the `

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` template on any new page. The pages are all stubs at the moment, but I have made links between related concepts/subconcepts/etc. These will also help us catch any wikilinks made from within the discord 🙂


22-11-07

sneakers-the-rat#black-boxes22-11-07 01:11:33

Hello Pooja and welcome 🙂 I certainly share your concerns here, and would love to read any writing or work you've done on the topic! I'm curious if you had any initial inklings of Discovery systems that go beyond the Search#Black Box Model ? I have my own ideas but as you say, everyone has a unique standpoint and experience that structures their ideas so I would love to hear yours!

sneakers-the-rat#general-brainstorming22-11-07 01:33:13

For everyone that is embarking on a project, how about setting up a page under Projects where we can start organizing people that are interested in them, and setting up any prerequisite infra/tools so we don't have to be struggling with stuff like provisioning servers and getting permissions setup during our limited time this weekend 🙂