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Excuse me let me be a good role model on continuous archiving. One of the reasons I am excited about academics adopting [[Mastodon]] is because [[ActivityPub]] is built on [[Linked Data]], which i think inspires the possibility for fundamentally new modes of scholarly communication. I have written about this in the past ([[Has DOI::10.48550/arXiv.2209.07493]], but will do my best to decenter my own ideas except for when I am using them as a demonstration for others as part of a demonstration of using the technology developed for the workshop +
omg lmao [[WikiBot#TODO]] Don't make a separate page using semantic wikilinks lol +
Then i just made a page to link to the pages. There's not really a well defined way to do meta-categorization like that in-medium as far as I'm aware, but am happy to receive [[WikiBot#Feature Requests]] about it +
this is almost exactly the idea with the [[WikiBot]] that pushes to a [[Semantic Wiki]], and good to have a name in [[Gradual Enrichment]]. looking forward to digging though the references and finishing that piece^ tomorrow. (and finishing the n-back linking syntax so I can just directly include the piece in the annotation that is this message). thanks for sharing 🙂 +
[[Project Ideas#Linked Data Publishing On Activitypub]]
ooh I'm very interested in this. so are you thinking a [[Twitter#Bridge]] -> [[ActivityPub#Bridge]] where one could use markup within the twitter post to declare [[Linked Data#Markup Syntax]] and then post to AP? I have thought about this kind of thing before, like using a bot command syntax to declare prefixes by doing something like
```
@ bot prefix
foaf: https:// (ontology URL)
```
or
```
@ bot alias
term: foaf.LongerNameForTerm
```
so that one could do maybe a semantic wikilink like `[ [term::value] ]` either within the tweet or as a reply to it (so the tweet itself doesn't become cluttered/it can become organized post -hoc?).
I've also thought about a bridge (I called [[Threadodo]] ) that implements that kind of command syntax to be able to directly archive threads to [[Zenodo]] along with structured information about the author, but this seems more interesting.
I can help try and clear some of the groundwork out of the way to make it easier for you and other interested participants to experiment. I have asked around fedi a bunch for a very minimal AP server implementation, and I could try and find one (or we could try and prototype one) if you want to experiment with that :), and I can also document and show you a tweepy-based bot that has an extensible command/parsing system too +
hello Matthew! very curious about this. As someone not familiar with materials science, I'm curious if you could say more about what [[OPTIMADE]] does in this case? Is the idea that the zenodo plugin parses some paper, and then sends it to other listening clients that the parsed data comes from the paper? is it a vocabulary, or communication protocol, or both? and what kind of information would it be parsing/do materials scientists want to be able to analyze in an automated way? sorry if I am being dense, just curious because I've always admired materials but have had very little exposure. +
in the spirit of cultivating our garden: [[Reading List]] https://hapgood.us/2015/10/17/the-garden-and-the-stream-a-technopastoral/amp/ +
the idea is exactly to merge the [[Garden and Stream]] we have here, or as olde wiki culture called it, [[DocumentMode and ThreadMode]] in a process of [[Gradual Enrichment]]
http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/DocumentMode
http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/ThreadMode +
[[Wiki#Organization]]
As we get towards proposing projects and organizing ideas, I've added a set of pages for the different concepts that y'all indicated either here or in your applications: https://synthesis-infrastructures.wiki/Concepts
Each page should give a list of participants that have a `Interested In` property on their participant page (or you can declare interest on the page using the template (see example at https://synthesis-infrastructures.wiki/Template:Concept ) as another way of finding people with similar interests. Feel free to add additional interests from your own page and add new pages by using the `
{| style="width: 30em; font-size: 90%; border: 1px solid #aaaaaa; background-color: #f9f9f9; color: black; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-right: 1em; padding: 0.2em;text-align:left;float:right;clear:right;"
! style="text-align: center; background-color:#ccccff;" colspan="2" |<span style="font-size: larger;">Discord Messages</span>
|-
| Interested Participants ||
|}
[[Category:Concept]]
` template on any new page. The pages are all stubs at the moment, but I have made links between related concepts/subconcepts/etc. These will also help us catch any wikilinks made from within the discord 🙂 +
Hello Pooja and welcome 🙂 I certainly share your concerns here, and would love to read any writing or work you've done on the topic! I'm curious if you had any initial inklings of [[Discovery]] systems that go beyond the [[Search#Black Box Model]] ? I have my own ideas but as you say, everyone has a unique standpoint and experience that structures their ideas so I would love to hear yours! +
For everyone that is embarking on a project, how about setting up a page under [[Projects]] where we can start organizing people that are interested in them, and setting up any prerequisite infra/tools so we don't have to be struggling with stuff like provisioning servers and getting permissions setup during our limited time this weekend 🙂 +
To add to the [[Reading List#Linked Data]] on [[Linked Data]], [[Standards]], and [[Collaboration]]: a piece from one of the authors of [[ActivityPub]] on the merger of the distributed messaging and linked data communities that I think puts into context what a massive achievement AP was
http://dustycloud.org/blog/on-standards-divisions-collaboration/ +
Haven't finished n-back thread capture yet but this rocks and let's keep track of it on the wiki. Scroll up in this thread for [[SEPIO]] + [[ActivityStreams]]/[[ActivityPub]] + [[JSON-LD]]. On a train now and having to work on some other stuff but this is making me unreasonably excited to check out later +
Reminder as the conversations start thickening (which has been great to read, looking forward to jumping in more later when I have a few minutes) and thus become a bit harder to keep track of that you should feel free to make liberal use of [[Wikilinks]] in your posts to archive them in the wiki and make them more discoverable by people outside of your table/project. (For example this message will appear here https://synthesis-infrastructures.wiki/Wikilinks ). This would be especially useful because it looks like some folks are interested in doing some <#1038988750677606432> on the wiki! +
I am about to go to bed but personally I favor the model of the federated wiki, that the same "term" or page title in the case of the wiki has many possible realizations, and what's useful is their multiplicity. I think everything2 was an early model of this, but basically it cuts to the core of the history of early wikis, to the initial fork of ward's wiki into meatball. the singularity of meaning as implied by Wikipedia is imo an artifact of wikis having been adopted by encyclopedists, with all the diderot-like enlightenment-era philosophy that entails. this seems exceptionally apt today and yesterday given Aaron Swartz telling of that history , particularly his "[[Who Writes Wikipedia?]]" Everyone can contribute in a linked context, and that's what the synthesis of wikilike thinking, linked data, and distributed messaging gives us :). I write about this idea more completely here: https://jon-e.net/infrastructure/#the-wiki-way
after my take on the critical/ethical need for forking in information systems as given by the case study of NIH's biomedical translator (link to most relevant part in the middle of the argument, the justification and motivation precedes it): https://jon-e.net/infrastructure/#problematizing-the-need-for-a-system-intended-to-link-all-or-eve +
I don't know of any either! The closest I know of is ward's [[Fedwiki]]: but i plan on making one (probably more related to <#1038983225348993184> than this channel, which i am trying hard not to derail lol) +
yes [[anagora]] does have a rough kind of federation! it's a very very permissive model which I love, markdown and plaintext with wikilinks, a lot of the wikis that it federates with are just git repositories of .md files 🙂 +
Maybe [[Synthesis Infrastructures 2022]] or something? but we haven't made one yet no lol +
another group ( <#1038988750677606432> ) will i believe be analyzing the semantic information on the wiki ( https://synthesis-infrastructures.wiki/Main_Page ), and you can archive the text of any message onto a wiki page by using [[Wikilinks]]: ( so eg. this message will go to https://synthesis-infrastructures.wiki/Wikilinks ) +
we're in the process of consolidating the ideas into group pages, so far the group pages are incomplete, but tomorrow (I'm on Pacific time, US) will work on that and take whatever ya write and move it over there 🙂 <@322545403876868096> got this started here: https://synthesis-infrastructures.wiki/Workshop_Working_Groups and then we'll split those up into pages in [[:Category:Group]] +