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**SJ: [[claim]] personal or group notetaking: connections are not discourse connections - they include refrences, clarifiers, and links of definitions | **SJ: [[claim]] personal or group notetaking: connections are not discourse connections - they include refrences, clarifiers, and links of definitions | ||
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== Section 3 Kyle == | == Section 3 Kyle == | ||
* | * {{d|id= |a= |type=claim |text=What if we start with naming & schemas first |supports=}} | ||
* {{d|id= |a= |type=question |text=do we start with a schema or refine as we go? |supports=}} | |||
** {{d|id= |a=SJ |type=claim |text=smw makes this hard for exactly this reason (deciding up front is friction). |supports=}} | |||
** {{d|id= |a= |type=claim |text=easier with free form mediawiki templates and wiki text |supports=}} | |||
*** {{d|id= |a= |type=claim |text=templates allow tiny Lua templates, w/ any number of fields and presentation. |supports=}} | |||
*** {{d|id= |a=SJ |type=claim |text=this can be edited flexibly, so schema changes don't break things or make them illegible. |supports=}} | |||
** {{d|id= |a=KK |type=question |text=is there a problem extending from mw to smw later? |supports=}} | |||
*** {{d|id= |a= |type=claim |text=no, can start with a dozen schemas by hand, then decide if to move to a MW extension (smw or other) or wikidata |supports=}} | |||
*** {{d|id= |a= |type=claim |text=depends on what authoring + visualization tools we want, and the modelling tradeoffs we want |supports=}} | |||
* {{d|id=template-start |a=KK |type=question |text=should we start with creating a "source" template: source: url, publisher, date, author ? |supports=}} | |||
* {{d|id=edge-complexity |a=KK |type=question |text=will defining edges/relationships turn out to be more complicated than creating templates for nodes? |supports=}} | |||
* {{d|id=when-done |a=KK |type=question |text=how do we know when we are done? |supports=}} | |||
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* - decision: start with naming & schemas first | * - decision: start with naming & schemas first | ||
* - do we start with a schema or refine as we go? | * - do we start with a schema or refine as we go? | ||
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* - we can do this by hand - dozen schemas | * - we can do this by hand - dozen schemas | ||
* - we can then decide whether we want to do smw or use wikidata & their respective modelling tradeoffs | * - we can then decide whether we want to do smw or use wikidata & their respective modelling tradeoffs | ||
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* - start with creating a "source" template: source: url, publisher, date, author ? | |||
* - kk: [[question]] will defining edges/relationships turn out to be more complicated than creating templates for nodes? | * - kk: [[question]] will defining edges/relationships turn out to be more complicated than creating templates for nodes? | ||
* - KK: how do we know when we are done? | * - KK: how do we know when we are done? | ||
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* - SJ: need to create an internally consistent way of sharing templates | * - SJ: need to create an internally consistent way of sharing templates | ||
* - kH: templates are universally available, which means that anyone can break our template | * - kH: templates are universally available, which means that anyone can break our template | ||