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		<id>https://synthesis.jon-e.net/index.php?title=Talk:Social_Systems&amp;diff=1195</id>
		<title>Talk:Social Systems</title>
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		<updated>2022-11-12T17:54:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Patel93: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==Open Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
Martin&lt;br /&gt;
* Reward contributions and how they affect behavior&lt;br /&gt;
* Collect few opinions on how the rewarding can be done, other examples and what worked or didn't work&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Angelina:&lt;br /&gt;
* Questions about adoption&lt;br /&gt;
* Regulations (for example, in USA there's data open or they don't receive money anymore), in EU there's a proposal to evaluate researchers using diff metrics, such as openness&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sílvia&lt;br /&gt;
* old incentives, what are the ones in place besides reputation?&lt;br /&gt;
* What should we keep in mind when creating&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Angelina&lt;br /&gt;
* replacing the old system would be detrimental to the adoption&lt;br /&gt;
* transfer their merits to the new system&lt;br /&gt;
* progressive adoption of new metrics in behavior that accommodates certain&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rafie&lt;br /&gt;
* metrics are used to &amp;quot;judge&amp;quot; researchers to allocate grants&lt;br /&gt;
* democratically incentives, but existing structures are not democratically enough&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jay (joining from the Interfaces group, adding some notes here for you)&lt;br /&gt;
* badges from open science are a social signal of participating in a new practice (analog would be Rescognito.com for knowledge synthesis)&lt;br /&gt;
* practical advice from studying the gamification literature may be valuable&lt;br /&gt;
* psychological and sociological literature on volunteering and altruism may also inspire ideas (I'm trying to think from different angles)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Most of the incentives are monetary (there are social)&lt;br /&gt;
* researchers are not in a position to decide; they're put in the system&lt;br /&gt;
* funders can probably change the infrastructure and regulations&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Q: stakeholders?'''&lt;br /&gt;
* Researchers&lt;br /&gt;
* grant funders&lt;br /&gt;
* publishing agencies&lt;br /&gt;
* Other: industry, taxpayers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Q - change coming from which stakeholders?'''&lt;br /&gt;
* Biggest US and European &lt;br /&gt;
* smaller foundations, not supper novel ideas, a lot of outliers in Web3&lt;br /&gt;
* researcher will move to web3 in 10 to 20&lt;br /&gt;
* Stepwise approach, led by biggest funder&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*alternative view*: demonstrate the reality of sth, Web3 and Desci - opportunity to demonstrate structures and mechanisms working in a small scale, and showcasing to onboard larger organizations&lt;br /&gt;
* start small and demonstrate value&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Push for the adoption of new systems:'''&lt;br /&gt;
* works but not optimal: some systems work great on a small scale, but scale to promote less nice behaviour&lt;br /&gt;
* Readiness of academia?&lt;br /&gt;
* otoh, early adopters don't need to be big&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nouran:&lt;br /&gt;
*HCI community: the driving force is actually the academics&lt;br /&gt;
* Tool building perspective: challenges? &lt;br /&gt;
* Reputation &amp;amp; interactions in online space: how can we build better tools to help users navigate these spaces without being afraid of their reputation&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Martin Q - if we create spaces to allow researchers to come together away from their high reputation game, how do they tap into research initiatives and new funders and funding mechanisms?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Open Questions - validate assumptions for the system that should work on a bigger scale?&lt;br /&gt;
* how do we determine the systems that will work on a big scale without testing them on a large scale?&lt;br /&gt;
* Valerii shares his company approach: small-scale test, update the pre-existing model + ar&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Open Questions?&lt;br /&gt;
''' spec out different funding/incentive models for sustaining the work of synthesis '''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''developing incentive mechanisms for contributions to understanding the status of the knowledge frontier'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''incentive mechanisms for contributing and maintaining living lit reviews in both domains'''&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Patel93</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://synthesis.jon-e.net/index.php?title=Talk:Social_Systems&amp;diff=1189</id>
		<title>Talk:Social Systems</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://synthesis.jon-e.net/index.php?title=Talk:Social_Systems&amp;diff=1189"/>
		<updated>2022-11-12T17:48:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Patel93: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==Open Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
Martin&lt;br /&gt;
* Reward contributions and how they affect behavior&lt;br /&gt;
* Collect few opinions on how the rewarding can be done, other examples and what worked or didn't work&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Angelina:&lt;br /&gt;
* Questions about adoption&lt;br /&gt;
* Regulations (for example, in USA there's data open or they don't receive money anymore), in EU there's a proposal to evaluate researchers using diff metrics, such as openness&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sílvia&lt;br /&gt;
* old incentives, what are the ones in place besides reputation?&lt;br /&gt;
* What should we keep in mind when creating&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Angelina&lt;br /&gt;
* replacing the old system would be detrimental to the adoption&lt;br /&gt;
* transfer their merits to the new system&lt;br /&gt;
* progressive adoption of new metrics in behavior that accommodates certain&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rafie&lt;br /&gt;
* metrics are used to &amp;quot;judge&amp;quot; researchers to allocate grants&lt;br /&gt;
* democratically incentives, but existing structures are not democratically enough&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jay (joining from the Interfaces group, adding some notes here for you)&lt;br /&gt;
* badges from open science are a social signal of participating in a new practice (analog would be Rescognito.com for knowledge synthesis)&lt;br /&gt;
* practical advice from studying the gamification literature may be valuable&lt;br /&gt;
* psychological and sociological literature on volunteering and altruism may also inspire ideas (I'm trying to think from different angles)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Most of the incentives are monetary (there are social)&lt;br /&gt;
* researchers are not in a position to decide; they're put in the system&lt;br /&gt;
* funders can probably change the infrastructure and regulations&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Q: stakeholders?'''&lt;br /&gt;
* Researchers&lt;br /&gt;
* grant funders&lt;br /&gt;
* publishing agencies&lt;br /&gt;
* Other: industry, taxpayers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Q - change coming from which stakeholders?'''&lt;br /&gt;
* Biggest US and European &lt;br /&gt;
* smaller foundations, not supper novel ideas, a lot of outliers in Web3&lt;br /&gt;
* researcher will move to web3 in 10 to 20&lt;br /&gt;
* Stepwise approach, led by biggest funder&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*alternative view*: demonstrate the reality of sth, Web3 and Desci - opportunity to demonstrate structures and mechanisms working in a small scale, and showcasing to onboard larger organizations&lt;br /&gt;
* start small and demonstrate value&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Push for the adoption of new systems:'''&lt;br /&gt;
* works but not optimal: some systems work great on a small scale, but scale to promote less nice behaviour&lt;br /&gt;
* Readiness of academia?&lt;br /&gt;
* otoh, early adopters don't need to be big&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nouran:&lt;br /&gt;
*HCI community: the driving force is actually the academics&lt;br /&gt;
* Tool building perspective: challenges? &lt;br /&gt;
* Reputation &amp;amp; interactions in online space: how can we build better tools to help users navigate these spaces without being afraid of their reputation&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Martin Q - if we create spaces to allow researchers to come together away from their high reputation game, how do they tap into research initiatives and new funders and funding mechanisms?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Open Questions - validate assumptions for the system that should work on a bigger scale?&lt;br /&gt;
* how do we determine the systems that will work on a big scale without testing them on a large scale?&lt;br /&gt;
* Valerii shares his company approach: small-scale test, update the pre-existing model + ar&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Open Questions?&lt;br /&gt;
''' spec out different funding/incentive models for sustaining the work of synthesis '''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''developing incentive mechanisms for contributions to understanding the status of the knowledge frontier'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''incentive mechanisms for contributing and maintaining living lit reviews in both domains'''&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Patel93</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://synthesis.jon-e.net/index.php?title=Interfaces&amp;diff=1091</id>
		<title>Interfaces</title>
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		<updated>2022-11-12T15:32:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Patel93: /* What */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Group&lt;br /&gt;
|Decription=How do we support richer forms of synthesis-oriented interaction with the existing bodies of research that transcend publications as the unit?&lt;br /&gt;
|Topics=Documents, HCI&lt;br /&gt;
|Discord Channel Name=#interfaces&lt;br /&gt;
|Discord Channel URL=https://discord.com/channels/1029514961782849607/1040386439575240704&lt;br /&gt;
|Facilitator=Jodi Schneider&lt;br /&gt;
|Members=Elianna DeSota, Jay Patel, Jodi Schneider, Jordan Wick, Joseph Chee Chang, Konrad Hinsen, Pao Siangliulue, Pooja Upadhyay, Arthur Perret&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Group]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== What ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
How do we support richer forms of synthesis-oriented interaction with the existing bodies of research that transcend publications as the unit?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jordan Wick: We need to improve the UX of reading papers (not PDFs) in &amp;quot;single-player&amp;quot; mode.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jodi: We really need narratives. Should we have databases instead of papers? I don't think that databases can take the place of papers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Related to:&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Related To::HCI]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Patel93</name></author>
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